tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2337988965190761352.post1248344468123481181..comments2024-01-10T11:18:41.110+01:00Comments on reclaiming the restoration: Renouncing horizontal worship: living by every word of God (part 7)Christianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17472278874852515384noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2337988965190761352.post-59549143367393899842015-12-06T03:21:50.194+01:002015-12-06T03:21:50.194+01:00Thank you. I have noticed a pattern and it has bee...Thank you. I have noticed a pattern and it has been confirmed through the Lord. His prophets, his messengers, expound the scriptures. Since the Lord is no Respecter of Persons- it shouldn't surprise us that he will use Men, Women, and Children to carry his messages. Many times he uses very flawed mortals to do this to test his children. Many times it is outside the "Establishment" that he does this, another pattern. I also like the picture/visual aid of the can of worms. Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15374589665400070727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2337988965190761352.post-26109709162759872822015-12-04T19:52:25.983+01:002015-12-04T19:52:25.983+01:00Lili, thanks for your concern.
Since much of what...Lili, thanks for your concern.<br /><br />Since much of what you write is based upon your feelings, I can't say much about it. <br /><br />Besides this, you make many accusations about vanity, making my own interpretations, that the post is written by some (as I understand it) evil spirit, that I wrest the scriptures, that I will find myself no nearer Christ by seeking him the way I do and so forth. Please provide examples so I know what you are talking about.<br />Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17472278874852515384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2337988965190761352.post-46088248202265523062015-12-04T18:45:45.700+01:002015-12-04T18:45:45.700+01:00I should clarify, the Holy first is not Telestial,...I should clarify, the Holy first is not Telestial, nor is Christ terrestrial, all are members of the Godhead which makes then celestial.. Even the holy ghost is more terrestrial because we receive his constant presence after making the covenant of baptism. However He bears witness of all truth and is with even those who have not made this covenant, briefly, as He bears that witness to the telestial being, like myself, if they ask. It is only in our asking that he can do so. Before that all of Gods children have been given the light of Christ to discern good from evil.Groverfamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161161174686349083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2337988965190761352.post-13664070323002752372015-12-04T18:34:08.206+01:002015-12-04T18:34:08.206+01:00My faith is not in man but in the the Savior. Thro...My faith is not in man but in the the Savior. Through the spirit it had been confirmed to my heart and soul that the words you have written have some validity but those truths are overcome with falsehood. You are wresting the scriptures and interpreting them in order to validate your own opinions, which is all this is. You will find yourself no nearer to Christ in the end. I love you but as soon as I i began reading the spirit left and it was undeniable. We all have our different journeys and I respect yours...I pray someday we end up at the same place. However I will not be deceived by this rhetoric. It is not doctrine. It has it's basis in doctrine but is man's interpretation not Gods. It is not vertical... It is horizontal... My faith is in Christ and this is not written with His spirit.. It is the spirit of the intellect of man. I know we will disagree so let's just agree to disagree. How can we come nearer to Christ if we don't even listen to the Holy Ghost. I will listen to the whisperings of the spirit and continue seeking the second comforter as I follow the promptings of the Holy Ghost and do as I have been commanded by the Savior...2nd Nephi 9:28-29... Your counsel is rooted in vanity not humility.. You think you know and are spouting it as doctrine. Section 132 is doctrine, whether you want to believe it or not. I taught it last year, studied it and had a beautiful witness of its divinity. It has changed my heart and brought me closer to my Savior, my spouse and my family. We are seeking the face of the Savior so that ultimately we can stand in the presence of our Father. We will see His face as we listen to the promptings of the holy ghost. The Holy ghost is our telestial witness of the Father and the Son, Christ is the terrestrial witness of the Father, He came to glorify the Father... We want to walk side by side with our Savior into the presence of our Father. We can only do this by being obedient to His counsel. Being humble, repenting always, recognizing that we don't have complete understanding but He does.. When we don't understand, that is where or faith in the savior is tested. You dont understand why the prophets and leaders of the church do or say some things but the Savior does... This is His church.. It is His gospel. It will roll forth.... I will be part of it... Acting in faith. Humility is not knowing but still doing, knowing that the Savior is in charge. He will work with, around and through the weakness of man to fulfill His word. He knows our frailties and yet He uses is to show forth His power. I see it in action every day as I submit to His will and look to Him for strength to overcome my many weaknesses. Please know I say this with love and understanding that while our journeys may nit have is on the same road at this time you are my family, i love you and while spiritually on different roads I look forward to visiting with you again someday soon.Groverfamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161161174686349083noreply@blogger.com